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This question has been merged with an old one "Bad Statistics, what can we do?" since they refer to the same topic, although the other one was old. Instead of closing as a duplicate (I closed that one as too localized for a bit though), I decided to merge them so we have everything in the same place. Now we can discuss about the measures.

The stats some comments refer to can be found in the other question I linked above.

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I just discovered that the 3D Graphics proposal got closed after 33 days of Beta.

After the bad tendency on our site, also signalled by the meta question "3 days without questions", I've decided to take some action and write this meta post, hoping that it will catch your attention.

Below I'll list the things we, everybody as a community, will do in order to gain some users and build up this critical mass the Area51 talks about.

Proposals made until now:

  1. Publish regularly the link to Linguistics SE on the major Social networks: Facebook, Twitter, G+, Myspace, anything you have. You can use these buttons available on the main site for example:

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  2. Invite professors, students and other linguists you know. If one of their works has been cited in a question or answer, it's worth mentioning that.

  3. Posting the link to the Linguistics SE site on your personal profile.

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  • These aren't terrible stats. We're only at day 30. More questions (come up with questions yourself, be inspired by other questions/answers), more visitors (visit everyday), and more voting (those who are here already can vote more often. – Mitch Oct 14 '11 at 18:38
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    Really? I mean you think they aren't terrible? I don't know... I mean, we are at approximately 1/5 of the questions per day, and slightly more than 1/10 of the visits per day... I hope it gets better with time! :) – Alenanno Oct 14 '11 at 18:44
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    Well, I'd certainly prefer that the stats be much better. And I think your question is good to have (in order to encourage activity anyhow. But other sites with worse stats (at 30 days) had similar meta posts (philosophy.SE) and ..OK here's the link and another – Mitch Oct 14 '11 at 18:55
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    that said, I've noticed (only anecdotally) a sharp downtick in questions in the past week. Before this week, lots of questions per day; this week, not so much. – Mitch Oct 14 '11 at 19:01
  • I added another proposal to your post. Hope you don't mind :-) – Otavio Macedo Dec 6 '11 at 12:47
  • @OtavioMacedo Sure not! I guess that posting an answer or editing is the same thing. Unless you wanna elaborate, then an answer is better ahah :D – Alenanno Dec 6 '11 at 12:48
  • No-one else? In any case... I'll start doing this soon, maybe by next week. I hope that everybody who read this will try to do at least the first one, which is just 2 or 3 clicks away... :D – Alenanno Dec 12 '11 at 12:01
  • Perhaps we could also ask questions that, when linked to elsewhere, might catch people's attention? E.g. if you happen to hang out with a lot of linguists in a certain field, maybe it would be possible to ask a question that would be somewhat provocative to those linguists, and encourage them to come and post their two cents. Other more general questions could work similarly to attract attention, e.g. 'Does prescriptivism have a place in linguistics?' I know that seems open-ended, but there is a reasonable consensus on something like that, and it would be possible to have a good answer for it – Floating Tone Dec 20 '11 at 11:31
  • (and some interesting comments and discussion in the process of arriving at such an answer) – Floating Tone Dec 20 '11 at 11:31
  • What about Linguist List's 'Ask a Linguist' service - has there been a thought or discussion to see if they'd want to merge (part of) that with Ling.SE? It would make a lot of sense from a technical point of view - they could never match the user experience that SE offers. Also the panel of linguists would get a lot more feedback and visibility for their answers. And the content here is all CC-licensed, so it's not like you're going to lose it (as a community of linguists). – arjan Jan 10 '12 at 15:04
  • @arjan What is this service? I don't know about it... – Alenanno Jan 10 '12 at 15:08
  • linguistlist.org/ask-ling. At first sight I thought there are frequent questions over there (looking at the last days), but it seems the total is actually quite small. – arjan Jan 10 '12 at 15:13
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    I tweeted the site; let's see what the overlap is between my followers and potential linguistics.SE users :) – Mark Beadles Jan 30 '12 at 20:52
  • Good now on the Area51 card for the site. – zixuan Feb 3 '19 at 13:07
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My sense is that a lot of the traffic to, say, English.SE or the original Stack Overflow site is coming from people with urgent practical questions. You know: "Which of these words should I use right now in this sentence I'm currently writing?" or "Which of these algorithms should I use in this specific program that I need to finish by tomorrow?" as opposed to "So, I was just sort of wondering, out of pure intellectual curiosity...." — which seems to be mostly what we get here.

It would be worth asking ourselves what the linguistic equivalent of that sort of urgent practical question would be — or if one exists at all. (Power user questions about linguistic documentation software like FLEX or ELAN? Fact-checking journalist-type questions about language names or numbers of speakers or whatever? Recommend-me-a-phrasebook questions from people about to travel to Borneo? All of these strike me as sort of edge cases the way the mission of the site is currently defined, but I'm wondering if we'd be providing a useful service by admitting them.)

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  • So what if we don't have "urgent practical" questions? The traffic is lower and we stay in beta longer. There is no problem about that. Imagine that every child would learn linguistics in school and this site would be swamped with homework questions. Would this make the site better? – Phira Oct 16 '11 at 19:29
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    Well, no -- I wouldn't expect those students to be good participants, if they're just being forced to study linguistics and they don't actually care about it. But if we got working linguists popping in here with practical questions that come up in their work (the way Stack Overflow gets working programmers) then I think that would be a real benefit to the community. – Leah Velleman Oct 16 '11 at 23:26
  • +1 @Dan Velleman: Believe the best comparison I'm able to think of is a bioinformatics Q&A site that covers both the science and application of the field. – blunders Oct 18 '11 at 16:54
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I put the link to the Linguistics SE in my profile, so that people that might visit it from other SE sites and are interested in the subject, might join the community.

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To add to @Dan Velleman's comments, I think that we would have far more traffic if we welcomed and addressed the sorts of 'urgent practical questions' that I come across every day on other linguistics forums, mailing lists, or amongst colleagues (and, therefore, the sorts of questions that people are frequently googling!)

These don't tend to be'theoretical' questions - if a theoretical question arises, a linguist usually either knows the answer already, or someone in their immediate vicinity does, or they know exactly where they might find the answer in a scholarly publication.

The 'urgent, practical questions' that I hear most often do tend to be related to the tools and methodological approaches that linguists use to do their daily work.

Some examples that I hear frequently in various online/on-campus haunts:

  • What sampling rate should I record at if I want to do phonetic analysis?
  • Which glossing conventions should I be following?
  • What software is available to make an online dictionary from the lexicon in my database?
  • What's the best way of entering IPA characters? what's the best font for IPA characters?
  • What's the best technique for eliciting X type of data? Or, how can I test to see if language X has feature Y?
  • Is FLEx better than Toolbox?
  • What do I need to put in the metadata for my corpus?
  • How do I do statistical analysis on X type of language data?

Obviously these sorts of questions come from people with certain types of interests, but my point is that I very rarely hear anyone ask questions like 'Is there much evidence for the poverty-of-the-stimulus hypothesis?'.

A further point, also mentioned by others, is that the 'experts' lurking on the site may have questions that are either too specific/advanced to have any chance of being answered on a site like this. I have not yet thought of any questions that I legitimately have no answer of my own for, or that I couldn't find an answer for in a few minutes under my own steam. If this site is intended for people who are professionals but also those who may be in the earlier stages of their careers (i.e. undergrads) or hobbyists (with certain standards), then it is probably worthwhile asking some questions that we already know the answers to, to be able to add to the quality content. If we ask questions that are considered to be common (and valid) questions in linguistics, and provide well-formed answers to these, people will come across them in their searches.

Taking an approach that a) incorporates more practical questions and b) addresses common linguistics questions will help to make this a go-to site for useful answers.

One question is, would people still be keen to work on quality answers if they suspected the person asking the question already had a pretty good idea?

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How about getting a plug on Language Log? They are devoted to making linguistics better known / more popular so this might fit in. It would get exposure to thousands of readers interested in linguistics.

Edit: example email message, please edit to improve, or comment:

Dear Language Loggers,

This site may be of interest to your readers (and you), maybe it's worth a mention on the Log?

The Linguistics Stack Exchange site is a place for linguists, language enthusiasts and people who have some interest in how languages work. It's an online Question & Answer site for anything linguistic. The goal is to create a large body of excellent answers to questions relevant to the discipline, as well as to build a community that caters for continued expert knowledge exchange. Participating is easy, informative and fun! Currently the site is in beta, and it could use more visitors, questions+answers and active members. Also note: Stack Exchange sites are open in nature: anyone can improve posts, and all content is CC-licensed. Before asking a question, just make sure to check the FAQ to see what's considered on-topic.

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  • Do you mean putting our name there? I'd be ok with it, but will they? – Alenanno Jan 10 '12 at 17:13
  • Occasionally one of the bloggers there just makes a short announcement about an upcoming talk, conference or summer school. Perhaps one of them could be convinced to write such a notice about linguistics.stackexchange.com. And if enough LL-readers take note, perhaps off-topic questions that are raised in the comments will also be referred here ;) – arjan Jan 10 '12 at 17:32
  • Do you have contacts or can contact them? – Alenanno Jan 12 '12 at 9:41
  • I don't know any of them, but they keep a general inbox at mail2languagelog at Gmail.com. I think we'd need to send a ready-to-use message for them to copy-paste, explaining what this site is about etc. – arjan Jan 12 '12 at 18:47
  • @Alenanno: I added an example email. What do you think? Someone may want to rewrite this (e.g. what the goal of the site is) since I'm new here. Maybe add links to example questions? – arjan Jan 28 '12 at 21:40
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All those people on english.SE asking closed questions could be re-informed by seeing a comment of a suggestion to retry at the then future ling.SE, and then resending a similar comment. The following google link will help find such 'retry' comments:

linguistics site:english.stackexchange.com

That is,

  • find an ELU question that was closed as off-topic but still good for ling.SE (via the above search).
  • resubmit a comment with a link to ling.SE. This will notify the original poster
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  • I don't understand your question about the "notify someone", as in advertising Linguistics SE? – Alenanno Oct 14 '11 at 18:45
  • @Alenanno: added explanation. – Mitch Oct 14 '11 at 19:06
  • Ah ok thanks. Well no, apparently the @nickname works only with someone who has been in chat (try to @ someone who is new to the site, you won't be able to ping that person). Similarly, it only works in the comments with similar requirements. – Alenanno Oct 14 '11 at 19:27
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    @Alenanno: I checked at Meta.SO and they confirmed that there is no way (except as a super moderator or something). But there is a more logical way to do it, by commenting directly where the original comment was made. I'll modify my suggestion. – Mitch Oct 14 '11 at 21:34
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Not familiar with SE protocol: are SE betas supposed to be incubated from within SE?

Three of the answers so far have been about advertising within SE, which seems a little myopic. I personally came here because of a plug by one of my professors on Facebook. So I would cast my net wider, e.g. by contacting academic departments or undergraduate linguistics student groups to see if they're willing to send out a short ad to their undergrad/grad students or something. I know it was advertised to Linguist List shortly before beta, but as I understand it asking/answering questions was disabled at that time. Not to mention that Linguist List isn't necessarily well read by undergraduate students.

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One idea would be to do relevant cross-posts/comments to other SE sites to increase awareness in site.

Here's an example of a question were Mitch did this with a comment:

Differences between Case Frames and Semantic role labeling

And it work, Sara now has an account with Linguistics.SE if you look at their list of accounts page.

Here's one Google to help find existing post that might relate to

linguist site:stackexchange.com -site:linguistics.stackexchange.com

and another

phonetics site:stackexchange.com -site:linguistics.stackexchange.com

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  • Yeah that's a good way. I think I'll re-put the link to this site in my profile. :) – Alenanno Oct 14 '11 at 16:11
  • @Alenanno: You should post that as another answer, since sounds like a good idea to me - in fact, I'll add "Ask a question on the new Linguistics site on Stack Exchange." to my profile. – blunders Oct 14 '11 at 16:19
  • Well... done! :) – Alenanno Oct 14 '11 at 17:05
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This may sound silly but I think we should advertise the fact that we're a beta and need advertising. When I first came here I thought it would be a huge site almost like stackoverflow and that I could help with answers. It's only when I got involved and started reading meta, that I realised this is not the case. Now I know and will try to help with questions as well, but I suppose anyone less involved will simply not think of it. Is it possible to pin posts at the top or make and additional banner or something of the sort?

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